Furthermore, the dimly lit sequence lasts about three minutes. Pretty harsh implication there, that Joe is such an asshole he could anger a person that much and not even remember it. Several men discover three dead bodies, and there's a lingering shot of the pool of blood under the head of the man whose head was cleaved by the hammer. We see a woman wearing brief-style underwear while a man is above her, he appears as though is he going to rape her; they are interrupted and we see the man leave as he smacks the woman on the backside before walking away and the woman pulls up her pants in a panic (please see the Violence/Gore category for more details). I mean REALLY trying not being such a moron in the future, and maybe you wont have to spray your inwardly directed anger at everyone but yourself. "She ran into our arms when she saw us. [2:00]. However, Adrian asks Joe to think why he had let Joe go in the first place, and shows that the interview with Mia was all a set-up, and "Mia" was a paid actress. While there, Joe gets a call on his cell phone from a man calling himself the Stranger, mocking him. The most noticeable difference between the two films while the main character is imprisoned is what they write on the paper provided to them in the hotel room. A man tells another man that he gains pleasure from forcing him into a sexual relationship with his own adult daughter (the man did not know the woman was his daughter when they had sex), so he could feel the sexual connection that the man had shared with his own father. I, think this is a revenge film, just Lee's revenge film. Im also assuming that my readers have seen the original, Korean version of Oldboy. Seeing the lengths he would go to, Lee Woo-jin decides to not have Mi-do learn the truth, instead leaving Oh Dae-su with a remote that supposedly would cause the pacemaker that Lee Woo-jin had installed to kill himself if Oh Dae-su tried to torture him. "[36] Michael Phillips of The Chicago Tribune, in a one and a half star review noted that "The revenge in Oldboy is neither sweet nor sour; it's just drab". DISCUSSION TOPICS - Consequences, revenge, regret, alcoholism, guilt, incest, divorce, shame, reparations, finding peace, resolution, disappointment, murder-suicides. [26], Oldboy was released theatrically in the United States on November 23, 2013, by FilmDistrict. Oldboy was also remade in 2013 by director Spike Lee, though it was seen as a mediocre reinterpretation that failed to add anything substantial to the narrative. A man with a knife stands up to attack another man as two other men with guns point them him; a woman grabs the knife from the man and kicks him in the stomach and torso, the man drops to the ground and we see two guns drawn and pointed at the knifeman. The love that blossoms between Mi-Do and Oh Dae-Su is not as romantic as it seems anymore, not when they are father and daughter. Patrick Bateman 31 1 2 3 It is his daughter's 4th birthday, and he is imprisoned for 15 years. A man lightly kisses his wife on the cheek. The heinous act is recorded and used as leverage against Joe. He refuses but takes her business card. . Vincent Parker told investigators that he killed his 57-year-old mother, Carol, and 55-year-old father, Wayne, inside the family's Norfolk home on Dec. 19, 2013, according to his confession. Jesus H. Christ, God, Oh My God, Jesus, Jesus Christ). Woo-jin orchestrated the entire thing to make Dae-su fall in love with his own daughter so that he too could know the pain of incest, with the knowledge that it cannot be resisted. It was the second film, coming after Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and before Lady Vengeance. A man holding a tire iron leaves an elevator and a woman and another man greet him; the woman grabs the tire iron from the man and uses it to smash the man in the stomach and he crumples over in pain before stabbing the woman with a box cutter and slitting her throat (the woman holds her hand to her throat as blood throbs from it, collapses to the ground and a pool of blood is seen around her body and she appears to die as the two men watch). In Oldboy 2013, Joes ex-wife Donna is raped and murdered. The problem with remaking a movie that's hinged around a single giant twist is that the element of surprise no longer applies. He then appears to stumble across a young social worker named Marie. He is suddenly released and becomes obsessed with finding the identity of the person who had him kidnapped and seeking revenge. A man grabs another man by the neck, holds him and punches him three times, until he is distracted by a video and drops the man to the ground. Oldboy (2013) Oldboy is topping the Netflix charts this week, nearly a decade after its first release in 2013. Watch Oldboy: Josh Brolin Transformation (Featurette). To give some context surrounding the climactic ending of the film, Oldboy is a South Korean film directed by Park Chan-Wook that focuses on the journey of a man named Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik) after being locked away in a mysterious prison for fifteen years. [22], Spike Lee's version was 140 minutes long, but the producers heavily re-edited the film to 105 minutes[23][24] (re-edits by producers also included the "one-shot hammer" scene[25]); Lee and Josh Brolin were unhappy with it. The tongue of Chucky, Joes best friend, is sent to him as a gift instead in Oldboy 2013. This American version of Park Chan-Wook's Korean thriller is Lee's most exciting movie since Inside Mannot a masterpiece by any stretch, but a lively commercial genre picture with a hypnotic, obsessive quality, and an utter indifference to being liked, much less approved of. The fourth major fail was in the reveal of the incest. The real act of revenge wasn't just to lock Oh Dae-su away for fifteen years, but it was actually to make him feel the same levels of pain as Lee Woo-jin had gone through. We hear a squishing crunching noise, which we learn is a man fatally smashing another man in the face with a hammer; we see as the man smashes the hammer into a second man's face, a spray of blood leaves the man's head as his nose bridge caves in from the hammer, and the man walks over to a third man and cleaves the claw portion of the hammer into his head (we see the man's eyes bug out and blood pours from the wound as the man slumps over and blood pools under the man's head). Written by Garon Tsuchiya and illustrated by Nobuaki Minegishi, the Old Boy manga was published by Futabasha magazine between 1996 and 1998 throughout eight volumes. However, the rights were never obtained, and Zinda isnt considered to be an official remake. Oldboy.2013.720p.BluRay.DTS-5.1.x264-AXED (by: Matmanamane) Webdl ( 1 subtitles) Oldboy.German.2013.BDRiP.x264-EXQUiSiTE (by: Matmanamane) TH Thai Bluray ( 1 subtitles) Oldboy (2013) 720p BluRay - OCR (by: tre2004) TR Turkish Trke Webdl ( 1 subtitles) Oldboy.2013.BDRiP.AC3-5.1.XviD-AXED (by: mstskn) NL Dutch Nederlands, Vlaams Webdl Adrian Doyle Pryce adds more rewards to Joes release in Oldboy 2013. Park Chan-wook was brilliant in keeping the audience and the hero in the dark about the reason for his imprisonment! Mi-do relates it to a time when she was alone on the subway and saw a human-sized ant in the same car as her. He gives most of them to Marie along with a box full of other mementos like the rubber duck and a letter saying shell never see him again but that hell love her forever. and instead of just one person committing suicide the dad shoots his daughter . It was Wierd and dumb for there to be a love triangle between the dad, daughter and son. Joe also bites the webbing of his hand until it bleeds in order to draw a face in his blood on his pillowcase for comfort, in a way that reminds of Wilson from Cast Away. Before he gets locked away, Joe isnt a good father. Perhaps this saved us from seeing Joe Doucett as incestuous AND a pedophile compared to just being incestuous. The hallway sequence is allegedly re-edited by producers in Oldboy 2013 and is about 15 seconds shorter in comparison, and tries to outdo how impressive the original sequence is. He compiles a list of all those who would want to imprison him, and writes letters to eventually give to Mia. She compares it to ants being in groups and lonely individuals always thinking about that, since they only have themselves to keep them company. Having just started his career with Collider in Fall of 2021, he hopes to bring a unique light towards shows that may otherwise be missed out on. A man coaxes a mouse into captivity and we then see the mouse with ten baby mice; the man is extremely happy and tells the mouse never to leave; the man wakes up later and the mouse is missing causing him to panic and shout, a tray is slid under the door and he finds the mouse, dead and surrounded by its dead babies with a smear of blood on the plate; the man cries and appears inconsolable. - NibblyPig Aug 24, 2016 at 14:51 Add a comment 1 Answer Sorted by: 1 It is the single most important goal that fuels all of their actions, and it is the centerpiece upon which the entire film is built around. It is intentionally left vague if the phantom pregnancy was what happened or if that is just what Lee Woo-jin said to hide himself from his past actions and the possibility of actually causing his sister to become pregnant. Instead the viewer developed no pity for Lees main character. Before he passes out, he sees a woman with a yellow umbrella. Joe spends a great deal of effort to determine if any of the men on his list are the Stranger, but they all prove to be innocent. This raises the long asked philosophical question: is it better to live in a happy lie or to live in a sad reality? Along the years, he learns that Donna was brutally murdered and he was accused of the crime and Mia was adopted and raised by a family. Sometimes these emotions can mix in a volatile way that can cause us to seek revenge over one another. 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Adrian shows Joe that Marie is really his daughter and that he had engineered events to this point to make Joe feel what it is like to lose everything. Obviously not wanting to permanently scar his daughter, Oh Dae-su begs for Lee Woo-jin not to tell her, going so far as to cut his own tongue out as a gesture of what he would do to make sure she never learned the truth. The website's critical consensus reads, "Suitably grim and bloody yet disappointingly safe and shallow, Spike Lee's Oldboy remake neither surpasses the original nor adds anything new to its impressive legacy. Ive seen the original Oldboy but Ive yet to see the remake if private prisons like the 1 in Oldboy actually exist then I imagine that a lot of money must be needed to run them. There are juicy and nauseating sound effects, but its fairly brief. Boring. Apart from bringing new life to 2003's Oldboy in Spike Lee's remake, Brolin and Olsen's pairing are at the center of the Thanos and Scarlet Witch beef, which was one of the most anticipated confrontations during the MCU's Avengers era. Lee Woo-jin then states that hell kill Mi-do if Oh Dae-su cant figure out who he is after five days have passed. 2003 | Maturity Rating: 16+ | 1h 59m | Mysteries. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Crushed, humiliated, and in unimaginable pain, Oh Dae-su lies on the floor of the penthouse broken as Lee Woo-jin descends the elevator. On return to Chucky's bar, Joe finds the Stranger there with the woman with the yellow umbrella, his bodyguard Haeng-Bok. If so, too bad. When they were both still kids in high school, Oh Dae-su caught Lee Woo-jin committing an act of incest with his sister Lee Soo-ah. A man watches a television news reporter announce that a woman had been murdered and we see a sheet-covered gurney (a small amount of blood is seen on the sheet) wheeled away; the reporter announces that the woman had a daughter, and we see a small girl being handed to an older woman; the man becomes very upset when the reporter announces that the police believe that he had murdered the woman. He is the one who orchestrated Joe Doucett's twenty year imprisonment to make him pay for his family's abysmal death. Emma Tustin, 32, was sentenced to life with a minimum of 29 years at Coventry Crown Court on . If you could, you would have noticed the first sentence in the second paragraph that warns This write-up will be chock full of spoilers. Then, to solidify your role as ignorant douche bag of the year, you blame the author for ruining the movie by flying off the deep in a crazy rage of insults worthy of a 6th grade playground, all because..wellyou just didnt possess the necessary higher brain activity to prevent causing yourself the unjustifiable rage you felt for such a little thing. And if youre keeping track at home, both versions (American and Korean) are based on the Japanese manga of the same name by Garon Tsuchiya and Nobuaki Minegishi. An American remake of Oldboy (2003) previously had director Justin Lin attached, with Ernesto M. Foronda and Fabian Marquez writing the screenplay after previously collaborating with Lin on Better Luck Tomorrow (2002). The father, who was not identified, was notified . Thought Id save you at least a little more frustration by letting you know that). There you have it! The entire point of revenge is that it is supposed to bring a level of satisfaction towards those who achieve it, however Oldboy makes it clear that the satisfaction brought out from revenge is not a feeling worth chasing. To get this to happen, Lee Woo-jin had Oh Dae-su's wife murdered and his daughter Mi-do (Kang Hye-jung) hypnotized to ensure that the two would fall for one another once Oh Dae-su was released. Served octopus, he bites into it without . Related:What Happened To Spike Lee's Mookie After Do The Right Thing? Thus, the cycle of revenge moves into full effect. The remake chooses to hint at several of the most memorable elements from Oldboy 2003 with teases to those beloved scenes a common tool across modern movie remakes of old stories. In fact, the film itself is part of a trilogy of films titled The Vengeance Trilogy that all center around the theme of revenge. A well-paid actress has pretended to be Mia the entire time, as well. 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