Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I am so sorry to report that he has not changed. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. No, its not how it went down, Julie. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. I hope you have a great day and God bless. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. What does the bible say about that? He knows! And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. Theres 30 men in the room. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. Understandable. And the demands that James McDonald made to try to go home a day early. It was the elders failure. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. And when I read that, I just shook my head. While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. And I know I totally get what youre talking about. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. And that was a big question. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. Both are true. And they are even beloved by God. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. So I appreciate it. Yeah. I was literally sitting in a hotel lobby waiting for a pickup at one oclock in the morning to catch an overnight flight back from India. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. Great! I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. But it was dark. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. I shouldnt be doing this. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. *, In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research. And they started reading scripture about the qualifications of the elders. But it happened to me in the meeting where I raised a couple things and James McDonald is like, I dont remember that. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. And that would have been right before you came back on the board. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. Production and performance have replaced biblical exegesis and fellowship. But he starts arguing process. This was months months later. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. So for Jim McDonald to say that he didnt remember like, Im not buying it, right? I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. The leaders in our church spoke like KJ era British people when they prayed, I always wondered why. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. On that Haiti trip. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. Am I characterizing what happened there accurately? Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. And it was a pretty tough meeting. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. "I was sitting in the back seat. And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. How about that one? I remember as a young pastor first hearing about James at a 2002 Moody Pastors Conference and reading his well written book on hermeneutics with an apologetic leaning and being blessed from his book. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. . And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. It was a conference call because it happened fast. Im sad for his fall. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. Tim, thanks I should have read before commenting and exactly! And if he doesnt, what does that mean in terms of employment at Harvest Bible Chapel? Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. We got to pray. And this is when everything really started happening. Dominican Republic, a resort there and invited their wives to come with them. So were in the meeting. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. I remember saying we got to pray. Literally more than two dozen people. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I feel that our beginnings, KJV or influences kept many people locked in to the Old Testament, with all of its Thou Shalt nots. One person suggested reading the New Testament first for a change and then read the Old Testament for the beginnings, the stories and allegories and basically manmade superstitions and misogynies. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. I need to repent. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. Thankfully, I had headphones on. Only Gods opinion is what counts. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. Ministry News. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. And I want to help people lead the church well. And I was still on the board. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. Yes, it is. And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. Well, you know, we laugh about it. None of those charges were looked into. Christians should stop feeding these people. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. Lets try little role reversal here. And I know its cost you personally. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. Makes me sad and understand why his life went out of control. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. And I gotta tell you, the people of Harvest, the people who were there before, the people who were still there, were so forgiving. I dont understand how folks in a church can continue to contribute to the church knowing that a significant portion of their contributions have gone / are going to line someones pocket in this dispute. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? But I had all I had all the letters by that point. He would probably be wildly successful. And there is one thing we know about Satan. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. This is James said what he said. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. That this wasnt just James failure. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. And then you know, you would categorize these things. So what happened? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. Is that an accurate representation? And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Thanks that is hilarious!! And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. year. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. 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Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. Can you share what was in it? And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. You dont know how I got ahold of them. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. Just look at King David . 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